[ It may take a day or two (Cid hadn't said it was urgent) but Emet-Selch eventually does show up at the other man's workshop. He sends a message the night before to notify Cid of his coming, so it shouldn't be a complete surprise when he knocks on whatever passes for the front door the next day. ]
[Indeed, time didn't matter too much and as Cid had said he would be frequenting his workshop often for the other projects he advertised. So once Emet-Selch arrives and knocks on the door, he'll hear a small whoosh of air and the door opening inwardly on its own.]
[ An automatic door? He raises an eyebrow as he walks through. It's not something he expected to see so soon. When Cid comes into view, he waves a lazy greeting. ]
I am. I couldn't possibly miss the chance to see you at work. And it may help my own project, besides.
[It's still a work in progress and using a basic system if he wants to ask about it, especially since Cid is using a button to activate it. And it. Kind of creaks as it s l o w l y closes behind Emet-Selch, but better than past incidents...]
I should hope so. It's original application was for someone's weapon, but I thought it could have other uses.
[Cid will stand from where he is and move to another work desk that has certainly seen better days. There will be the device in question—two, actually—both box-like in shape and no bigger than one's palm. They're both rather unassuming and simplistic in their looks, with the only difference between them is one has a few orange marks on it and extra vents as part of its exterior design.]
Mind, this is a small version but I've come up with a few potential designs to make it larger that isn't a straight increase in materials. But even at this size it can keep a sizable surface cool.
[ He follows Cid over to the other table. A cursory glance doesn't reveal much and, if it's purely mechanical, he knows his Sight won't reveal anything more. But that doesn't bother him - in fact, it only piques his curiosity further. ]
How does it work? What do you plan to attach it to?
[ He's already thinking about other versions of heat sinks that he has seen from other shards and mentally comparing. ]
I had been studying the elemental crystals that are naturally found in this world along with some other material that helps magical elements be used more efficiently. Through this I came up with a system that only requires a small number of water crystals to give that cooling effect to keep things from overheating.
[He'll start opening the tops and sides of the boxes now so Emet-Selch can see the inside don't ask how it looks JUST PRETEND IT'S SOMETHING COOL AND NEW AND WORKS SOMEHOW]
I've had them working for days and the amount is still near full capacity, and to replenish them you only need to take out this component and let it soak in water or even use one's own water sells to give it a little "charge."
This can be used in a variety of uses where you need to keep something from overheating.
The other version I have here recycles the heat to be used for various uses, including expulsion. So far it's only been tested on a certain individual's weapon, which is how I even came about to study these handy devices.
Ideally. These work quite well for small, everyday uses, but if they were to be used in something more powerful then it's either using multiple or creating a larger one. The latter, of course, being more efficient.
[ He slowly straightens and gives the problem some thought. There are a number of ways to adapt this thing to more industrial applications - which is what he assumes Cid means when referencing 'larger' machines. He could simply tell the man what to do, much like he had with the Garleans when introducing them to the ceruleum engine, but that would be stifling the man's own ingenuity.
Jaded though he is, Emet-Selch can't help but want to put a little faith in humanity again. ]
...You are correct to use water. It is largely the most efficient way to carry out heat. Even when expanding a heat sink's operation beyond the scope of a household appliance, water is still used - usually through the medium of pipes. The hot water produced can be jettisoned as steam for short-term use. You could even make use of the heat emitted from the pipes to provide natural heating to certain rooms in cold areas.
[ Very useful in Garlemald, situated as it is in mountains which see snow for the majority of the year. Maybe not so useful here. ]
Whatever the case, if you wish for it to run for an extended period of time, the heat produced will need as much surface area as possible to escape. On a ship, this could be as simple as having pipes run close to the sides where seawater will naturally bear the heat away during the ship's journey.
[Cid's eyes widen at this as he considers Emet-Selch's suggestion.]
Aye, that would be the way, wouldn't it...
[Stroking his chin, Emet-Selch can likely see those gears already turning. More surface area...pipes...]
And with these crystals capable of absorbing their element back into themselves, it would be even easier to siphon off that excess energy and utilize it for more uses like you said. I'll have to see what I can do. I do want to somewhat test the limits of how much these can handle in varying sizes as the more a small unit can handle without failing, the more efficient overall designs can be.
[ Watching the gears turn in the man's head is a delight. His mouth twitches and he gives Cid time to ruminate aloud before speaking again. ]
If you need an excuse to test your larger heat sinks, mayhap we could try incorporating it into one of the ship engines my workshop is overseeing? Not immediately of course, but I do expect there to be refinement as the months and years pass.
How could I not? It's something I have keen interest in.
[Even if he hasn't been able to fully to commit to helping directly, he never said he couldn't try to participate in other ways. This is "other ways."]
I do have a few materials I may need that will likely run similar to what you are already retrieving, so if you don't sparing a few I'll gladly pay for it. Likewise, I'll share with you what I've been using in case you are able to make use of it for your own needs.
[Could he keep it all trade secret for himself? Yeah, sure, but that's no fun and Cid isn't really caring about profits or glory. If it helps otherwise, of course he'll share the knowledge. It's not like he's giving the whole design away, anyway.]
[ Emet-Selch nods, offering a wry smile in return. ]
Since you've gone so far as to share this with me, I may be able offer a little discount. 'Tis only fair, I think.
[ Cid deserves more compensation than that, honestly, if Emet-Selch incorporates aspects of the man's design into the ship. He'll have to think on a more equitable arrangement later. ]
Once my project can sustain itself without constant supervision, I'll gladly lend my aid to any future plans you may have.
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Let me know the time and place and I shall see if I can be there.
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[Insert time schedule and directions to his workshop here. Even if Emet-Selch has been there before, doesn't hurt to have it just in case!]
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[ It may take a day or two (Cid hadn't said it was urgent) but Emet-Selch eventually does show up at the other man's workshop. He sends a message the night before to notify Cid of his coming, so it shouldn't be a complete surprise when he knocks on whatever passes for the front door the next day. ]
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Ah, Emet-Selch! Here to see the heat sink?
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I am. I couldn't possibly miss the chance to see you at work. And it may help my own project, besides.
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I should hope so. It's original application was for someone's weapon, but I thought it could have other uses.
[Cid will stand from where he is and move to another work desk that has certainly seen better days. There will be the device in question—two, actually—both box-like in shape and no bigger than one's palm. They're both rather unassuming and simplistic in their looks, with the only difference between them is one has a few orange marks on it and extra vents as part of its exterior design.]
Mind, this is a small version but I've come up with a few potential designs to make it larger that isn't a straight increase in materials. But even at this size it can keep a sizable surface cool.
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How does it work? What do you plan to attach it to?
[ He's already thinking about other versions of heat sinks that he has seen from other shards and mentally comparing. ]
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[He'll start opening the tops and sides of the boxes now so Emet-Selch can see the inside
don't ask how it looks JUST PRETEND IT'S SOMETHING COOL AND NEW AND WORKS SOMEHOW]I've had them working for days and the amount is still near full capacity, and to replenish them you only need to take out this component and let it soak in water or even use one's own water sells to give it a little "charge."
This can be used in a variety of uses where you need to keep something from overheating.
The other version I have here recycles the heat to be used for various uses, including expulsion. So far it's only been tested on a certain individual's weapon, which is how I even came about to study these handy devices.
[Now that one will be a bit different.]
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I suggested something like this for young Freminet to research. The boy has ice magic so he is particularly suited to it.
[ Cid's invention is elegant though. He's not the least bit surprised about that. ]
Then your problem is that you would like to make it larger?
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I thought you might have some ideas.
random (hopefully close to accurate) BS: go
Jaded though he is, Emet-Selch can't help but want to put a little faith in humanity again. ]
...You are correct to use water. It is largely the most efficient way to carry out heat. Even when expanding a heat sink's operation beyond the scope of a household appliance, water is still used - usually through the medium of pipes. The hot water produced can be jettisoned as steam for short-term use. You could even make use of the heat emitted from the pipes to provide natural heating to certain rooms in cold areas.
[ Very useful in Garlemald, situated as it is in mountains which see snow for the majority of the year. Maybe not so useful here. ]
Whatever the case, if you wish for it to run for an extended period of time, the heat produced will need as much surface area as possible to escape. On a ship, this could be as simple as having pipes run close to the sides where seawater will naturally bear the heat away during the ship's journey.
we accept all bs cos throwing bs in return
Aye, that would be the way, wouldn't it...
[Stroking his chin, Emet-Selch can likely see those gears already turning. More surface area...pipes...]
And with these crystals capable of absorbing their element back into themselves, it would be even easier to siphon off that excess energy and utilize it for more uses like you said. I'll have to see what I can do. I do want to somewhat test the limits of how much these can handle in varying sizes as the more a small unit can handle without failing, the more efficient overall designs can be.
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[ Watching the gears turn in the man's head is a delight. His mouth twitches and he gives Cid time to ruminate aloud before speaking again. ]
If you need an excuse to test your larger heat sinks, mayhap we could try incorporating it into one of the ship engines my workshop is overseeing? Not immediately of course, but I do expect there to be refinement as the months and years pass.
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[A grin.]
It's one of the reasons why I called you to take a look, see if they could be used for such a purpose.
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Ah! I should have known. Such convenient timing on your part. I suppose you really couldn't stop thinking about them, hmm?
[ He returns his gaze to the heat sink again. ]
Is there aught you need help acquiring?
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How could I not? It's something I have keen interest in.
[Even if he hasn't been able to fully to commit to helping directly, he never said he couldn't try to participate in other ways. This is "other ways."]
I do have a few materials I may need that will likely run similar to what you are already retrieving, so if you don't sparing a few I'll gladly pay for it. Likewise, I'll share with you what I've been using in case you are able to make use of it for your own needs.
[Could he keep it all trade secret for himself? Yeah, sure, but that's no fun and Cid isn't really caring about profits or glory. If it helps otherwise, of course he'll share the knowledge. It's not like he's giving the whole design away, anyway.]
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Since you've gone so far as to share this with me, I may be able offer a little discount. 'Tis only fair, I think.
[ Cid deserves more compensation than that, honestly, if Emet-Selch incorporates aspects of the man's design into the ship. He'll have to think on a more equitable arrangement later. ]
Once my project can sustain itself without constant supervision, I'll gladly lend my aid to any future plans you may have.
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[He'll even hold out his hand for a friendly shake on it.]
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Aye. Here's to a fruitful partnership for the both of us.